Are we a country who likes to glorify murder?
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PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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YOU wrote:
And the issue isn't that putting the child in care is expensive, it's that it's a poorer quality of life.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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Gade wrote:
You're killing a future. Not only that, but a chance at life. Think about that.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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Sentinel wrote:
This is why I don't wear condoms.Gade wrote:
You're killing a future. Not only that, but a chance at life. Think about that.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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c. wrote:
Then adopt them. It cost little to nothing to adopt kids out of foster care.★Λddi★ wrote:
id happily pay higher taxes for those children to be given a chance at life. we would love to adopt a couple kids. it would probably be the one worth while thing our f'ed up gov would spend money on.What would happen if we stressed the system more with your "oh just put them up for adoption" attitude? Also, are you going to start helping these generally poor women in their birthing costs -before and and after birth care? You know the main reason people have abortions due to not having the money to have children?
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PRIDE wrote:
Your comprehension skills are poorThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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★Λddi★ wrote:
yup. less than a thousand dollars. we plan to as soon as my better half is done with school.c. wrote:
Then adopt them. It cost little to nothing to adopt kids out of foster care.★Λddi★ wrote:
id happily pay higher taxes for those children to be given a chance at life. we would love to adopt a couple kids. it would probably be the one worth while thing our f'ed up gov would spend money on.What would happen if we stressed the system more with your "oh just put them up for adoption" attitude? Also, are you going to start helping these generally poor women in their birthing costs -before and and after birth care? You know the main reason people have abortions due to not having the money to have children?
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Gade wrote:
And what if someone commits homicide against a pregnant women? Will that not be a double homicide?PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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Please make this stop. Couldn't we just let this end on a warm and fuzzy? Kudos by the way, c.
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Gade wrote:
Last time I checked... All human beings are a bunch of cells.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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Today I think we should remember the people who died. Who could've did great things. And I think we should forget the people who did this to us. Because if we don't they won, they want to be remembered for all time for doing this to America. Let's not give that to them.
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Idonoghue wrote:
Fine, a bunch of cells with no consciousness or private experienceGade wrote:
Last time I checked... All human beings are a bunch of cells.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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KOZY wrote:
You may have a point there. But I don't think he actually made any decisions while in office. He just wasn't capable.The Saw wrote:
You do let yahoos make decisions. Bush. Nuff saidI'm happy we don't let just any yahoo make these decisions for us. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Fortunately it's those with experience/wisdom, education, are informed, and have a balanced perspective of our common society that get to make these decisions for our collective well-being. I can only imagine the country we would live in if some of you fanaticals above were in charge. Open your minds people and consider how your views effect others. You can't use one fact to form an opinion.
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Gade wrote:
What if we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...Idonoghue wrote:
Fine, a bunch of cells with no consciousness or private experienceGade wrote:
Last time I checked... All human beings are a bunch of cells.PRIDE wrote:
If conception was recent enough for abortion to still be an option then they're not human beings, just a bunch of cells. You might as well be killing algaeThis is what I'm getting out of the pro-choice people.
-too much money to keep the unborn alive, it will raise my taxes.-they're not considered "human beings" until they come out of the womb.
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🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
I could be a millionaire, but I'm not...if we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...
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HIPPIE🍁MAFIA wrote:
But you could be is the thing. If someone doesn't give you a chance at working towards that goal through a life then of course you won't be...🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
I could be a millionaire, but I'm not...if we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...
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The main thing that irks me about this whole controversial argument is that we even have to argue about it in the first place. Men and women have an instinctual love for their offspring. For a couple to decide that they are going to terminate their child's life because it will involve responsibility, time, and money says a lot about our society.
Bushmen or women in Africa don't complain, "man, I wish we could abort our baby because its too much work and we just can't afford it!" -
Idonoghue wrote:
Nope they would just hope that it and the mother would survive childbirth without modern medicine.The main thing that irks me about this whole controversial argument is that we even have to argue about it in the first place. Men and women have an instinctual love for their offspring. For a couple to decide that they are going to terminate their child's life because it will involve responsibility, time, and money says a lot about our society. Bushmen or women in Africa don't complain, "man, I wish we could abort our baby because its too much work and we just can't afford it!"
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🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
Then you'd have to mourn every sperm that never fertilised an egg. You'd have to give up murderous acts like masterbation and sex, other than the occasional times you get someone pregnantif we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...
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Gade wrote:
Potential is the word though! I come at it from a situation where I should have been aborted. All the stuff my teenage parents were going through would have made me nothing but a dodged bullet in today's society. I'm not going to try and change anyone's views I just am asking a question to provoke thought. That's good for everyone:)🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
Then you'd have to mourn every sperm that never fertilised an egg. You'd have to give up murderous acts like masterbation and sex, other than the occasional times you get someone pregnantif we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...
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Gade wrote:
Very interesting point gade. However you also have to look at the role in the 'circle of life' that these little cells play. The purpose of the egg is to provide the women with the option to get pregnant, not to make her feel obligated to. It's the same way with sperm. It's purpose is to make conception available and increase the likelihood. These two elements are just extensions of our own bodies. However the early fetus is a whole new life form, with its own unique DNA and whose sole purpose is to exist. There is a marked difference between those two stages in pregnancy.🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
Then you'd have to mourn every sperm that never fertilised an egg. You'd have to give up murderous acts like masterbation and sex, other than the occasional times you get someone pregnantif we started to see things for what they could be? Just in general...
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Idonoghue wrote:
What a narrow view and idealistic view you have. Yeah, it's only middleclass "couples" walking around getting abortipns because its inconvenient. And it only happens in the Americas. LmaoThe main thing that irks me about this whole controversial argument is that we even have to argue about it in the first place. Men and women have an instinctual love for their offspring. For a couple to decide that they are going to terminate their child's life because it will involve responsibility, time, and money says a lot about our society. Bushmen or women in Africa don't complain, "man, I wish we could abort our baby because its too much work and we just can't afford it!"
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★Λddi★ wrote:
He didnt say it was only in America? That was assumed by youIdonoghue wrote:
What a narrow view and idealistic view you have. Yeah, it's only middleclass "couples" walking around getting abortipns because its inconvenient. And it only happens in the Americas. LmaoThe main thing that irks me about this whole controversial argument is that we even have to argue about it in the first place. Men and women have an instinctual love for their offspring. For a couple to decide that they are going to terminate their child's life because it will involve responsibility, time, and money says a lot about our society. Bushmen or women in Africa don't complain, "man, I wish we could abort our baby because its too much work and we just can't afford it!"
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I prefer to exist in a world that glorifies boobies!
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I think a mother should be allowed to eat her child if she can't support it, like polar bears.
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Three things:
A) No minds will be changed in this thread.
B) Nobody has the right to tell someone what to do or not do with their own body. (Dudes, you can voice an opinion but you vote with a condom)
C) I saw a great bumper sticker today: "Will you also fight for the fetus's rights if it grows up to be gay?" -
cheese wrote:
👆👍Three things:A) No minds will be changed in this thread.B) Nobody has the right to tell someone what to do or not do with their own body. (Dudes, you can voice an opinion but you vote with a condom)C) I saw a great bumper sticker today: "Will you also fight for the fetus's rights if it grows up to be gay?"
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🌜Dreamus Allen🌛 wrote:
The "type" of person/couple was inferred. I'm sorry you don't have critical thinking skills and aren't able to deduce his meaning.★Λddi★ wrote:
He didnt say it was only in America? That was assumed by youIdonoghue wrote:
What a narrow view and idealistic view you have. Yeah, it's only middleclass "couples" walking around getting abortipns because its inconvenient. And it only happens in the Americas. LmaoFor a couple to decide that they are going to terminate their child's life because it will involve responsibility, time, and money says a lot about our society. Bushmen or women in Africa don't complain, "man, I wish we could abort our baby because its too much work and we just can't afford it!"
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