Smacking kids
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Beating kids?
How many of you actually have kids?
I've got two girls, 9 & 12. The last thing I'd do is hit them.
When mum gets to the end of her tether with them, it only takes a look from me and there angels again.
I've never hit them but they see the size of me and drop straight back into line when they see I'm annoyed!
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Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Bottom line, if someone is unable to discern the difference and where that line is, they have no business being parents in the first place.༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
The line is easy to clarify by your own standard, but there's no scale to go off. Where do you draw the line? Simply saying, "we'll you just don't beat the shit out of them" isn't valid. Is a light punch ok, so long as it's no harder than a general slap? Is it ok to slap hard enough to leave a sting? Is it ok to to crack the kid across the head? (For those who may be missing the meaning, I'm not looking for answers to these questions!)Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т
don't beat the shit out of your kid...There are many ways to use "disciplinary" bodily harm but there's simply
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Bottom line, if someone is unable to discern the difference and where that line is, they have no business being parents in the first place.༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т
don't beat the shit out of your kid...There are many ways to use "disciplinary" bodily harm but there's simply
So you think it's right that I could potentially be jailed for smacking my child when she is of legal adult age, when she's more able bodied and inclined to hit back in defence, but because she's still a child I wouldn't face the same charges for the same force used?
Hey, lets all hit kids. Woot. 🍻😄
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₲℟₳ℵÐⱥⅆⅆʏ ʗℛㅌᵃℳ wrote:
Lol.I don't believe in beating my kids. So I make them wear a Justin Bieber shirt and Crocs to school so other kids will do it for me.
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Lack of discipline is what is wrong with the youth today. If I misbehaved at school, I got a paddling at school and a worse one when I got home. Kids today have no respect for rules or adults because there is no longer any consequences for their actions and we can thank lawyers for that.
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Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
As far as I'm concerned there's no further argument. If someone beats their kid bloody, lock em up. Again, if someone is unable to define the difference between discipline and abuse, they have no business being parents in the first place.༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Bottom line, if someone is unable to discern the .༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т
don't beat the shit out of your kid...There are many ways to use "disciplinary" bodily harm but there's simply
So you think it's right that I could potentially
Hey, lets all hit kids. Woot. 🍻😄
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₲℟₳ℵÐⱥⅆⅆʏ ʗℛㅌᵃℳ wrote:
LMFAO. 👍👍. Noted.I don't believe in beating my kids. So I make them wear a Justin Bieber shirt and Crocs to school so other kids will do it for me.
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Spare the rod / spoil the child. That said I've only had to spank my kids one or twice ever.
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The line is easy to clarify by your own standard, but there's no scale to go off. Where do you draw the line? Simply saying, "we'll you just don't beat the shit out of them" isn't valid. Is a light punch ok, so long as it's no harder than a general slap? Is it ok to slap hard enough to leave a sting? Is it ok to to crack the kid across the head? (For those who may be missing the meaning, I'm not looking for answers to these questions!)
There are many ways to use "disciplinary" bodily harm but there's simply is no way to know if there's a line crossed. As kids we are told that physical violence isn't the answer to solving problems. Even if I gently slap some guy up side the head, I can be criminally charged with assault... Just food for thought!
I live in Maryland, and the Child Abuse law here is that a parent/guardian can "discipline" their child, but may not leave a mark on the child. Hope that answers your question. -
ɅɭɭMᗅNЯ wrote:
well if a child is under 5 just give them a little smack on the buns, it might not hurt them much but they will feel bad for what they didGiving a child under five a good ol whack over the chops is wrong in my opinion, if they are older and can understand what they are doing wrong then maybe.
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Hitting kids = good
Hitting adults = badLaws are great huh?
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Physical violence leads to child aggression. When an adult physically hurts a child it teaches the kid that when he has a problem with someone that he should do the same. Physical violence is not a good teaching tool on kids or teens. All it does is teaches them that beating others is how you solve problems.
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UnknownI live in Maryland, and the Child Abuse law here is that a parent/guardian can "discipline" their child, but may not leave a mark on the child. Hope that answers your question.
👍 So is it a case of trial and error with the strength of slap until the force required to not leave a mark is found?
I'm not opposed to children being disciplined. My ex and I have simply used non physical means. It's engrained on our perception of life that's it's ok to hit kids yet the same force when dealing with adults is deemed a criminal act.
Even when I was a kid, it was ok for non related adults to 'clip me upside the head' if I cheeked them. I'd then get a further smack from the old man for telling tales! That kind of thing is a complete no go area these days, if you slap a kid on the street for misbehaving, you will face big penelties. Same goes for schools.
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Uniformed laws allowing any person responsible for a child are needed. 'Old school' discipline if you like. Where teachers can smack a child, a police officer, adult on the street who the kid is kicking off with, aunts, uncles.... Etc...
Is it not acceptable that 👆 those things are reintroduced to validate the use of smacking? Yes it installs a level of 'fear of discipline' into us as kids, I'd sure as hell argue about it giving us any level of respect for others, however.
Unless we are willing to see all sides of the subject, how can one draw a reasonable response? The refusal to accept there are other ways to discipline kids is not only arrogant, it suggests we are a little too comfortable hitting kids, because we can!
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YOU wrote:
I'd like to expand on this, I will give my child 2 chances then I will discipline him/her with a belt to the bottom. Not ferociously until he/she bleeds, but enough to get the point across that he/she shouldn't do what he/she did again. ( sorry for all of the he/she's )When I have kids, spanking/smacking them will be my last resort.
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Sentinel wrote:
That's actually how our grandfather dealt with us if we slept over at weekends. When we arrived there would be a belt hanging over the hand rail at the bottom of the stairs. "Three strikes and it's the belt", he'd say. Seldom did we reach strike two. Not once did either of us swing a third, that belt remained unused until his passing.YOU wrote:
I will give my child 2 chances then I will discipline him/her with a belt to the bottom. Not ferociously until he/she bleeds, but enough to get the point across that he/she shouldn't do what he/she did again. ( sorry for all of the he/she's )When I have kids, spanking/smacking them will be my last resort.
It could be argued we were conditioned to fear that belt by the way our father was, or simply knew that the belt was pretty likely to be rather unpleasant. Either way, a simple threat was enough. 👍
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Teachers need to be able to physically discipline students. Or at least have a better punishment then take a few days off while you eat chips and play Xbox. On a side note i personally have seen the bratiest little shit on my street finally get a little smack from his mother and. It certainly straightened him up. Not a violent psychopath cannibal rapist yet but il let you know.
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In this few wise words, parents....destroy your child's Xbox.
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How did this turn from a debate on smacking kids to whether it's ok to beat the shit out of them? The theory behind a smack is that it's a short sharp shock. There is a time and place for this kind of disciplinary measure and as mentioned by someone earlier, if you're not capable of sound judgment regarding appropriate punishments then you shouldn't be a parent.
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However you want to look at it and skim over the points to draw your own conclusions, a truely responsible parent would never dismiss the fact there are non physical methods to disciplining a child. At the very least, one should read some studies based on the negative effects of using such smacking. It's too easy to resort to these things when we use ignorance as an excuse.
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And the award for biggest circle jerk goes to this thread.
Disciplining kids works. Whether it be physical or not.
Hitting kids is a good way to teach them. Hitting adults is a good way to land yourself in jail.
Do whatever you want to your kids. I don't care. Won't affect me in the slightest. I just feel sorry for your kids if you beat the shit out of them and you're in prison and they are in a foster home.
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Why place the focus on 'beating the shit out of kids'? Nobody said smacking kids was beating the shit out of them. People have taken a snippet of a larger picture to defend an empty argument. There's no way anyone can know what level of pain a child feels when being smacked.
If you feel comfortable smacking kids, fair enough, but at the very least you should make yourself aware of potential issues of doing so. To argue a point without using known facts shows ignorance and irresponsibility. Surely the end result is to want the best for our kids, a lot of evidence out there shows that smacking them isn't the way to achieve this.
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ℱüℕ6754 wrote:
👆💀Darken Rahl💀 wrote:
👆There's not a damn thing wrong with using smacking as punishment. When I was growing up and I did something wrong, I knew what was coming my way. And it sure as hell made me think twice about doing it again.
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